Hi there, here few keywords for you: relationships, business, personal power, and occult. And sex.
With the strong eight house you take relationships very serious. So your contacts to the people are not going to be just casual, but constructive, goal-oriented, informative, and you will have a lot of respect for responsible folks. You will also look for resourcefulness and good research-skills in others,and possess them yourself.
The 8th house is also called the house of business, so many planets there are very good at running an independent business. If you inherit your family business, you can take it to the new heights.
You maybe experienced already that your occasional intense emotional expressions can translate into having power over other people. This can be used positively, but it can find its negative expression too. With Leo, and Virgo, you will probably stick to the power of facts and possibly also power of creativity. Unless you have it squared or opposed by some other planet, there should not be any unhealthy power issues.
Partially you gain power because your understanding of people is pretty deep, you know what motivates them and what drives them. With the strong 8th house, Death is your friend. What most people fear feels familiar to you. You may feel fearless and indestructible, and considering Virgo’s involvement here, this should not be overly dangerous to you. You are good at psychology, maybe even to the point that you want to study it more. However, you can’t explain it all rationally, and that’s when you will be looking for answers in unconventional sciences, like astrology.
Finally sex is a mystery that you feel drawn to explore, maybe also professionally. You would probably make a great sex-therapist, because you will dig into this topic until you reach your conclusions, and you can also apply them in real life.
The placement of your Pluto and its aspects can tell if this stellium is leaning more towards the brighter or darker side. Hope all of this resonates and helps a bit.
Abella Arthur, a great Astrologer and Occultist, desribes her 8th house Virgo stellium with this words:
“Respect is a big thing for me, so for the longest time I treated people the way I would want to be treated. Bad move. When I speak, I speak with personal clarity and thought. My natural inclination is to think that other’s do that too. That they think of consequences, the well-being of the person/s their responsible to, and important minutia. But they rarely do. They’re in the moment. They’re into themselves.
So that’s another ‘popular line’ that isn’t my karma. My karma is NOT to treat people the way I would want to be treated. Why? Because most people are nothing like me.“ (…)
I don’t see any south node influence that may be negatively related to your questions (it may play out in personal relationship). On the other hand, your north node conjunct Neptune has a musical emphasis and a feeling that you are fated to do something neptunian. Would you consider also involvement with film production? Leo Jupiter Sun must be an entertainer at heart and be close to some forms of entertaining industry. Maybe a music manager? With music you may not be able to use you language skills on day-to-day basis (ruling the 6th house), and your sense of value is deeply connected to words (Mercury Venus conjunction) – which again makes for a great Music teacher, researcher, and writer about music, but may not engage your full potential.
thank you so much for your interest hieronimus, i do try to explore areas like astrology and i primarily want to explore my own chart because i believe i know myself in depth :)
saggimc commented about posting my chart, but i don’t know if i could edit the original question or not, so i’m adding it here if anyone’s interested. i’m usually a humble person and i don’t like feeling that i’m flattering myself BUT i have much self confidence sometimes. i try to know myself more so i could communicate with people in an informative manner without going over the edge. that part you quoted does pretty much sum it all, disrespect is a big taboo for me and it sometimes gives me headaches, because i believe we’re all one and deserve the same amount of respect and attention.
Wonder if you can relate to this:
“Moon conjunct Pluto is penetrating, provocative and plunges headlong into the dark sea of lunar emotions without fear. They want nothing less than dramatic and intense sexual relationships that profoundly transform their souls. The closer they brush with death and trauma, the more alive they feel. Moon conjunct Pluto may get obsessively involved with a project or person, but then suddenly swoop off alone to process the commotion they have created. It’s not that they intentional go out to create turmoil in other peoples lives, it’s just they seem to attract and absorb the suppressed demons from everyone around them. They may end up being the family scapegoat for unacknowledged abuse, seething rivalry or skeletons in the domestic closet. Moon conjunct Pluto is like a magnet that pulls out, kicking and screaming, all the long buried toxins in a person or organisation up to the surface for healing.
Moon conjunct Pluto maybe obsessed with their mother, have an obsessive mother, be obsessed with being a mother or mothering issues in general. They have a powerful urge to protect the innocent from abuse and abduction. This includes them selves if they feel they have been victimised., so they may be seen a incredibly defensive. Sometimes this very primal protecting or self-protecting motivation can go too far and they are experienced as devouring and overbearing. In a low vibration individual this very potent conjunction can be the worlds worst evil stepmother or a scheming, manipulative bitch. At its very best this can be a psychic warrior who fearlessly dives into the murkiest waters of the most septic soul and courageously blasts them with the tough-love torch of Plutonic transformation. Moon conjunct Pluto makes a great depth psychologist or exorcist. In a sexually secure person Moon conjunct Pluto is an expert at removing the taboos in sex. They will know intuitively what sexual practices (no matter how kinky!) can work cathartically to heal any inhibitions or sexual dysfunction in their lover. They can make great sex therapists too with beneficial aspects from Chiron or Mars."
by marina from darkstarastrology
The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation by Carmen Turner-Schott
http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii496/SaggiMC/planetarymeanings.jpg This slide shows the meanings of the planets
http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii496/SaggiMC/chartwheelhouses.jpg this slide shows the house meanings, natural house rulers and notice the compass points are reversed? this is not a mistake
If moon is conjunct pluto this will ‘colour’ your view of mother, being a strong controlling imposing woman and quite poss a lack of rapport with her…
So the ruler of MC venus is in fall AND retrograde, this alone suggests delays. Venus is also quincunx saturn, (which I have) and suggests that older generation people (parents) don’t really understand what brings you pleasure..
Saturn is also oriental to your sun “Saturn Guiding Planet You have a knack for defining systems and making things function well and long. Saturn Skill Symbol people often exhibit an even greater capacity for work, self-discipline and for overcoming hardship and obstacles than the Mars Skill Symbol type. You can best achieve your highly focused goals through sheer perseverance and through a profound understanding of the nature of people and things. When faced with difficulties, it is best to hold fast and study the situation in detail. You perform well when undertaking clearly defined projects in a highly ordered and structured manner or environment. Administrative qualities are strong, and others may look to you for leadership, protection or mentorship.
With Saturn Oriental, you may have an air of authority, and at times you exercise it too harshly. Though your knowledge and experience may be considerable, and acquired the hard way, it is wise to avoid rigidity and patronizing others.
As Guiding Planet, Saturn reveals the structural patterns defining situations and behavior. The strong sense of social order and authority associated with Saturn Skill Symbol may incline people born with Saturn Oriental to see society and relationships in a strictly hierarchical manner, as systems in which wealth, status and power rules; balance may be found by attempting to see things from a more holistic, interrelated and interdependent perspective.
While Oriental Saturn suggests involvement in politics and a desire to attain positions authority, it is also seen in the birth-charts of politically astute protectors and champions of the people. http://www.khaldea.com/planets/oriental_houses.shtml
Moon conjunct pluto in 11th house not only describes your view and relationship with mother but also comes into play concerned career and need something all consuming, highly emotional but subjective. But also Moon in 11th network of friends, getting job through friends, work fulfils social needs
Mercury is final dispositor of MC but yet again is retrograde, but helped being Exalted in virgo.
Neptune in lst House – angular house Should try to avoid alcohol and drugs. Often have an air of mystery about you. Indicates a sensitive intuitive awareness of yourself and your environment. Highly impressionable. Certainly artistic and a great appreciation of music. Dreamy innocent look drift off when talking! Dissatisfied with appearance in some way ie; manner, looks. Sometime appear to live in world of own. Idealist. Physical appearance probably something you don’t care for. People may often say to you look at me when I’m talking to you! Can daydream with eyes wide open. Neptunian illnesses movements affected will walk funny at least with one foot. (twine toed as small child or when first walking ) Mysterious allergies on skin or where obvious, and suddenly disappear.
Uranus in lst House – Angular house You will have a strong drive for personal freedom and will seek out unusual friends and activities. Individuality very strong Unusual in some way. often possessing scientific and intuitive talents. Personal behaviour unpredictable. Good organiser and leadership qualities. Occasionally act the opposite of what is expected of you. Dissatisfied with appearance in some way (quite common hippy type, earring through noses, bright coloured pink or red hair etc.) Can dress provocatively – aiming to shock. Very original theories and methods of working. Erratic and sudden impulses not always understood, not only by others but by themselves. Not a conformist and apt to be too direct and blunt with opinions. Must surrender the willfulness inherent in this position.
your chart ruler saturn is also a singleton